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Online! The Book
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| Online! The Book | |
| author | John C. Dvorak and Chris Pirillo (with Wendy Taylor) |
| pages | 701 |
| publisher | Prentice Hall PTR |
| rating | 3 |
| reviewer | Tony Williams |
| ISBN | 0131423630 |
| summary | Padding, information and errors all in the one volume. Could be worse, but not by much. |
If only John C. Dvorak and Chris Pirillo (with Wendy Taylor) had been able to deliver. If only they had not strewn the book with error, verbiage and irrelavancy. Ah, well.
This volume in its 700 pages (divided into 28 chapters) tries to cover everything from hardware basics to voice over IP, in between touching on e-commerce, security, web programming, networking, content management and business websites, to name just six of the topics perhaps each better suited to a volume of their own.
This book skims, and skims fast, over a number of important and vital topics while dwelling on others that many will find useless. Chris Pirillo seems to be an expert on marketing, so that gets thirty pages, while web programming languages get ten. We get forty pages of 'Hardware Basics,' which cover information vital to getting online such as operating systems, varieties of Intel chips, video cards and gaming audio drivers. I know that if I wanted to find the perfect spot to put breakout boxes about Babbage and von Neumann (essential to any book about getting online) I'd put them in the chapter on viruses. It seems as if the three authors said "we're contracted to seven hundred pages so let's just throw in topics we know a lot about until we get to seven hundred pages -- then stop."
Then there are the errors. We get editing errors like the text that tells us a 'geostationary satellite' orbits at 'about 22,300 miles,' next to a diagram showing the number 20,300 miles. We get errors in logic like the breakout box that has "DNS servers may run Apache, which is an open source Web server program" and goes on to imply that all DNS servers will run a web server. We get errors in grammar. We get paragraphs like "Although there are dynamic Web page URLs (meaning they change, or at least part of it does), most are static (stay the same). These can be dynamic by use of a programming error or dynamic because someone named the URL extension without adding a link elsewhere on the web site." With sentence construction like that I'm still not sure if the claim intended is true or not.
Did I like anything about this book? Sure, the chapter on 'How A Modem (Really) Works' was full of good solid information. Other chapters were similar, particularly the two following on networking and handhelds, phones and PDAs. Others did contain some good information, just surrounded by dross.
You can go to the book's website, which is basically just a single page with yet more hyperbole ("Everything is here. Well-written. Comprehensive.") or visit the Prentice Hall page, which actually gives you a table of contents and a sample chapter. Just don't go straight to the Prentice Hall PTR home page and search for books with "Online" in the title, as that won't find it. Instead search for books with "Book" in the title.
I'd only recommend this book to those who want to spend a lot of time finding the good bits, a few minutes chuckling over some of the errors, and thirty dollars on a paperweight. If you're really looking for a 'perfect gift' for people new new to the net, then find something cheaper covering just the essentials, and for those more expert, find a volume that actually covers a topic of interest well.
You can purchase Online! The Book from bn.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.
duh (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.grub.net/blog/index.html | Last Journal: Wednesday June 27, @08:48AM)
Gee, and it's just out in time for Christmas. What a coincidence. No wonder they didn't have time to get their facts straight, December was coming.
Re:duh (Score:5, Funny)
(http://evilempire.ath.cx/)
This should be a "Perfect gift for people who read computer books".
What were you expecting? (Score:5, Insightful)
If wishes were fishes ... (Score:3, Funny)
I think I'll wait.... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Say what you want about Dvorak... (Score:5, Funny)
Table of Contents (Score:5, Funny)
God.... (Score:2, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday January 01 2004, @02:35PM)
*remembers Dilbert boss joke.*
Heh heh...
Mel Brooks, eat your heart out... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.thefurryone.net/ | Last Journal: Sunday September 28 2003, @11:33PM)
Look! The rating is a 3! (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
Re:Look! The rating is a 3! (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.morinfami...categories/Geek.html | Last Journal: Tuesday March 01 2005, @02:47PM)
Why only computer books? (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Saturday July 03 2004, @11:10PM)
Hardly Suprising (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.goofball.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday January 15 2003, @02:35PM)
Great!! (Score:3, Funny)
Perfect gift idea for the newbies! (Score:2)
(http://www.theschmoejoes.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday June 19 2004, @02:56PM)
What a way to introduce someone to the World Wide Wow!
this book is too long... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.rit.edu/~mds2184 | Last Journal: Friday October 11 2002, @02:07PM)
The sequels are even better (Score:3, Funny)
Offline! Tales of slashdotting
Spelling! Secrets of the Slashdot editors
Speaking of hubris; try THIS on for size: (Score:2, Funny)
Time warp? (Score:3, Funny)
What does it cost? (Score:2)
(http://coder.dk/ | Last Journal: Saturday April 15 2006, @09:12PM)
Destined to be... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Destined to be... (Score:4, Funny)
$2.99? I got Bill Gates's "The Road Ahead" in a 50-cents bin. Are you telling me "Online!" is worth nearly six times as much as BillG's 1995-era visions of the future?
Well, OK, maybe.
This is the same Dvorak... (Score:5, Insightful)
And now he claims "...no more junk email"
OK. That's quite simply not possible, and he must know it.
"Packed with secrets never before revealed"
You're telling me there's a lot (wnough to "pack" a book this size) important useful things about the internet that only these three people knew until now?
Hogwash.
correct me if I'm wrong (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Tuesday October 23, @02:06AM)
But I thought geostationary satellites are at an elevation of about 22,239 miles. It is important to get this right, otherwise your geostationary satellite isn't stationary.
Both figures in the book are wrong.
Quote makes it sound authentic. (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm... sounds exactly like being online.
Ed Kroll (Score:1)
Metacomment (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.buffalonews.com)
(since this is a comment about comments, but on-topic because it's about reviews, does this count as a "metacomment"? My guess is I'm just an ass...)
ebook? (Score:2)
(http://i.love.spam.mail.com/)
sadly.... (Score:2, Funny)
Dead tree internet directories (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://infaux.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 01 2005, @02:08PM)
Oh yeah, marketing. Of course, you could just make annual editions of internet "yellow pages" with corrected links, etc.
It's like going to the mailbox outside the post office to mail a letter.
P Is For Pirillo, P Is For Pathetic. (Score:4, Funny)
(Last Journal: Friday February 20 2004, @10:17AM)
And to top it all off, he writes a newsletter called "Windows Fanatics". I feel so bad for this guy. World Vision should add this guy to their client list, he's at least as pathetic as the starving AIDS-ridden African child with flies crawling on his face.
BSD isn't dying, this guy is.
Perhaps their logic runs deeper than the Obvious. (Score:1)
If there's one thing I know about computers and the internet, it's that fluff is a very big part of it's culture. Also, Pr0n is a very big part of the internet and computers, fluffing is even more pronounced by this.
I feel that by your review you have exposed the book to be far more accurate in delivery then it ever could dream to be in content.
why not 'online for dummies'? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://tallgreen.com/)
'One of these days, you are going to have to teach me how to use computers'.
No, I won't.
Teach yourself or find something else to do. Writing a book like this is obviously going to make the authors and publishers some money, which is the point. This book was written by 'internet experts', the kind of people who get fired as soon as their companies find out how useless they really are. Then they get hired to write about what they barely know.
What does it take to get a 1? (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean really, there should be a competition to find a book which sets new lows.
What's the point of having a scale of 1 to 10 if nobody has a 1?
If Dvorak put out a book with so little value that it's not worth reading, will mislead anyone who doesn't know any better, would corrupt young minds if given to a library, would shame you to admit to have read it, much less purchased it, invokes sadness to look upon -- knowing that trees died to print it, leads you to question the sanity of the publisher or the motives of the author, then by all means, give it a 1!
Look on the bright side... (Score:1)
(http://imagitude.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Monday April 26 2004, @06:20PM)
Orbit (Score:2)
(http://www.danielroot.com/)
"Geostationary orbit" seems like a misnomer itself. If it's geostationary, is it really orbiting around anything besides the sun?
Oh the irony of it all (Score:3, Funny)
700 pages? (Score:1)
Full as a baked potato (Score:1)
(http://www.inio.org/)
This can't be slashdot.
And in other news... (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Tuesday April 24 2007, @07:35PM)
``How a modem works'' chapter recycled (Score:1)
(http://members.aol.com/willadams)
Sad.
William
Breakout box? (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Tuesday December 02 2003, @11:27AM)
While this is an example of a page with a sidebar. [boingboing.net]
This is only worth commenting on because I had no idea what the hell you meant.
Contractual obligation? (Score:1)
(http://slashdot.org/)
John Dvorak (Score:1)
(http://www.myspace.com/sarcasmatron)
ugh.
He's the retarded Andy Rooney of computer journalism.
Ahhh! My eyes! My eyes!!! (Score:1)
(http://www.mossroot.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday February 09 2005, @07:19PM)
Nah, the puppy page was better.
*shivers* Oh my Lord, that was scary.
Hubris (Score:2)
Admittedly, they published it in 1992...
The ed. isn't one to be critical of sentence logic (Score:1)
(http://www.notfilm.com/)
chapter 288.. (Score:1)
(http://www.acidchat.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 29 2004, @04:09PM)
you get the idea.
Filthy Liars (Score:1)
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Re:Why post? (Score:2)
(http://www.google.com/)
Re:Considering... (Score:1, Redundant)
(http://www.leibman.net/)
Yes, I am writing on a Dvorak Keyboard:
The keyboard was designed from work started in about 1930, by Dr. August Dvorak, an American from Seattle (distantly related both to composer Antonin Dvorak and the John Dvorak in question).
Re:Considering... (Score:3, Redundant)
Re:Considering... (Score:1)
(http://www.olsonzoo.com/)
Re:Considering... (Score:1)
Re:Considering... (Score:1, Funny)
Don't you mean "New World"?
Re:Considering... (Score:5, Funny)
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