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What did you pick? (Score:5, Informative)
I suspect that's what was meant by "fixed lens," but that's the wrong term - a fixed lens is one of fixed focal length (although there are apparently people who use that term differently [about.com], but still not for point-and-shoots), so that choice really covers what's found in most smartphones (another obviously missing choice). Really, 2 choices for film cameras? Is the ghost of Ansel Adams present on
Re:What did you pick? (Score:5, Interesting)
I picked "other" for the same reason. I have a rather morally old Canon S5 IS, which is neither a DSLR nor a pocket camera. It's what was called a "bridge" camera at the time. It does have a body, you can put a limited number of accessories on it, but it's not a DSLR.
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Okay, I give up. What the heck is "morally old" - something from Carrie Nation's time?
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Not the OP.
You know it when you see it. e.g. a 93 ford.
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It's not old... it's well-aged. Like a fine cheese, such as Velveeta.
Re:What did you pick? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's an adaptation from my native language. It means something that still works perfectly, just no longer fits in the definition of being useful much. Like a 486DX in the world of i7. :)
Sorry about the confusion I created
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No, please don't apologize - and thank you for the explanation! I just assumed it was a silly typo, so I made a joke; but it now makes perfect sense.
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Google Translate picks "obsolete" as the proper translation, however in my language it's not correct to use this term. My camera is certainly not obsolete, it takes great pictures, does its job just well, functions like a charm (well the zoom slider/rotating button is a bit stuck). It's just that it's 6 years old. Therefore "old" :)
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It doesn't fit in any pocket I've seen.
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That's mostly incorrect. A SLR is primarily defined by having an optical path via mirror and prism from the lens to the viewfinder and that the mirror is switched out of the light path to the film/sensor when the photograph is taken, blanking the viewfinder during the exposure. That is the reflex part of SLR.
The S5 IS has an electronic viewfinder and the picture displayed is read off the sensor. There is no optical path and no mirror in the system.
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I do understand it perfectly. Te S5 IS is therefore NOT a DSLR, because it does NOT have a mirror.
Damn people read way too much into poll options. (Score:2)
Given the other options, "fixed lens" clearly refers to cameras with integrated non-interchangeable lenses. Ie, point-and-shoot cameras.
1: Classic film cameras, from Instamatics through to SLR.
2: Large format speciality film cameras.
3: Consumer and "pro-sumer" point-and-shoot digital cameras.
4: DSLR.
5: Non-SLR cameras with SLR-like interchangeable lenses.
6: Phone-cams.
7: Don't care.
8: Something odd enough to be worth mentioning. From old Polaroid instants to someone on the Hubble team.
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No, it's that poll options are made by people with insufficient knowledge of the subject.
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Re:Damn people read way too much into poll options (Score:5, Funny)
No, it's pedantic wankers insisting that obscure technical definitions of terms used in a general discussion are the only possible definition. It's always been the bane of online discussion.
This is slashdot. News for nerds.
Your other web forum is thataway ----------------->
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No, it's pedantic wankers insisting that obscure technical definitions of terms used in a general discussion are the only possible definition. It's always been the bane of online discussion. Whenever some jumped up little dickhead learns a technical meaning, he suddenly insist on bringing it up every time someone uses the more general meaning.
Ah, but that begs the question: who is being trolled?
Re:Damn people read way too much into poll options (Score:4, Funny)
No, it's pedantic wankers.
Ah, but that begs the question: who is being trolled?
Whom is being trolled?
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Compared to film even the most expensive 35 mm size digital is pretty damn sorry, right up to offerings by 'blad.
Gone are the cool tricks of photography like 3 color sliders and bulb settings, f stops and other things that made art happen at the camera level.
Digital has a long way to go to be cool.
On the other hand, I recall an article, maybe a year or two ago where some geek made a view camera with a flatbed scanner for a back.
THERE are the missing pixels that todays digital cameras lack. The slow speed of
Re:What did you pick? (Score:4, Informative)
What are you smoking?
I have a Canon 5D Mk II, with 35 mm CMOS, and I frequently use the camera with e.g. 50 mm lens and set it to f/1.4 to get plenty of bokeh. There's also a bulb setting. I use that every time I attach my camera to a telescope and do a few minutes of exposure. And of course you can set white balance to whatever you like, or what exactly do you mean by "3 color sliders"?
And plenty of places show that digital has long ago surpassed 35 mm film in quality, and also larger formats (with less margin though).
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Alternatively, all of my other consumer grade cameras have always been pretty limited regardless of what technology they were using. For most people that aren't using pro-grade equipment not much has changed and people that are willing to pay for better equipment can get more interesting (even artsy) results.
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I think the question as asked was ambiguous.
Looking at the results, it seems clear that most people interpreted it as "favorite for your everyday still-image use", not necessarily what "favorite for professional still-image photography". Most probably didn't even notice "still-image".
There's no question that a 120mm film is vastly superior to a tiny pixellated sensor, and also allows attaching wider lenses letting more light in, further improving the result.
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I suspect that's what was meant by "fixed lens," but that's the wrong term - a fixed lens is one of fixed focal length.
You are thinking of a Prime Lens. Fixed lens camera has always been a camera with a built in optical system.
Re:What did you pick? (Score:5, Informative)
A non-zooming lens is called a prime lens, actually. A fixed lens is usually interpreted as one that is non-removable.
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Wrong. That's a prime lens.
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Google "fixed lens," and the majority use that term to refer to a non-zoom (fixed focus) lens. It's only the newbies that use it any other way. I suppose someone with no photographic knowledge heard the term, assumed it meant something it didn't, started using it incorrectly, and created an ambiguity.
Non-interchangeable lens would be an appropriate, non-ambiguous term for what you're describing.
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Re:Canon A720IS (Score:5, Interesting)
Plus the excellent chdk firmware to open up features like raw mode and extra-long exposures and all kinds of other neat stuff usually found on high-end cameras.
Not to mention the underwater case ( Canon WP-DC16 ) that is (was?) available for it at a fraction of the price of other cameras and gives you full functionality and a lot more portability into harsh environments.
I recently picked up a used Canon T2i, but it actually doesn't seem to take substantially better pictures than what I could capture with my A720IS. I'll still be getting plenty of mileage out of that Point and Shoot.
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+1 For Canon PowerShot cameras. Great pictures, durable, easy to use... and- CHDK http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK [wikia.com] for hacking fun! All around great products.
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Phone (Score:4, Insightful)
Just because don't need to carry an extra gadget, don't need to take professional photos, and the N9 camera is good enough for most usual things.
Anyway, if you define "favorite" as the one that you carry most of the time, then probably will be the phone for most.
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Just because don't need to carry an extra gadget, don't need to take professional photos, and the N9 camera is good enough for most usual things.
The N9 would have been my answer for my good-enough-always-with-me camera, but mine died, and getting repair service in the US isn't looking good. (Anyone with any helpful info along those lines, let me know.)
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Re:Phone (Score:4, Interesting)
I hate them all. (Score:3, Interesting)
I hate them all.
- Full frame DSLR bodies are ludicrously expensive.
- All the glass worth owning is designed for full-frame - smaller DSLR formats get slow and/or soft zooms and a smattering of primes in useful focal lengths at useful speeds. Non-full frame DSLR owners are a despised afterthought, despite driving most of the profit.
- All of the mirrorless systems with great glass at good prices have crummy bodies.
- All of the mirrorless systems with great bodies have overpriced/slow/crummy/all-of-the-above glass.
- Modern primes are stupidly overpriced. Adjusted for inflation, N/C/S/P lenses with mediocre quality are pricier than equivalent Leica or Carl Zeiss lenses sold in the '90s.
- Ditto flash units.
I sold my Contax kit, I'm ready to take the plunge after sitting on the sidelines for a while - Fuji XE-1 with the kit zoom looks like the (reluctantly chosen) winner. It takes gorgeous photos, the zoom is sharp, contrasty and fast, the other lenses in the system are superb and (for primes) reasonably priced, the old-skewl controls make me feel at home - I just need to put up with craptacular EXF and The Worst Autofocus in Scotland.
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- All the glass worth owning is designed for full-frame - smaller DSLR formats get slow and/or soft zooms and a smattering of primes in useful focal lengths at useful.
Canon's EF lenses are designed for full frames but can also be mounted on APS-C crop sensor bodies. EF-S is meant for crop sensor bodies, therefore cannot be mounted on FF's.
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Yeah, but to get an equivalent field of view at an equivalent speed, you're stuck with a wide angle design for a normal lens, and an ultrawide for wide angle. This introduces size and expense and has tradeoffs in quality and speed. (Thing start to work in favor of the smaller sensor once we start talking telephotos, tho...)
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Yeah, but to get an equivalent field of view at an equivalent speed, you're stuck with a wide angle design for a normal lens, and an ultrawide for wide angle. This introduces size and expense and has tradeoffs in quality and speed.
Yeah I know. I have an XS (yes, I know it's a cheap body, I want to upgrade to the 60D) and with the kit lens the 18mm "wide" angle becomes ~28mm because of the 1.6x crop factor.
Thing start to work in favor of the smaller sensor once we start talking telephotos, tho...
I'm pretty sure they made the 7D just for this, because it shoots 8 FPS but has a crop sensor so it would be ideal for sports, wildlife, etc. Like I said above I have the XS but my 200mm becomes 320mm with the crop factor. :)
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There's actually a pretty good range of ultra-wide APS-C lenses now. Canon has a 10-22mm. Nikon has a 10-24mm. Sigma has an 8-16mm, a 10-20mm, as well as circular and diagonal fisheyes. Tokina has a 11-16mm. Tamron has a 10-24mm. There's others. They're very proud of them too, judging by their prices.
I went a cheaper route and got the Samyang 8mm fisheye. When I want rectilinear output, I convert it with hugin.
DSLR... sorta (Score:5, Insightful)
I love my DSLR. Its photo quality is amazing. It is my favourite camera.
However, with it I take a fraction of the amount of photos as the camera in my phone. Why? My DSLR doesn't fit in my pocket. I'm just happy my phone has a reasonable lens and sensor in it.
Anyway, there's an old quote I heard once: The best camera is the one you have with you.
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I actually find the opposite.
Having a half decent DSLR around my neck means I actually use the thing to take pictures. The camera on my phone is rubbish and so it stays in my pocket most of the time.
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That's why I leave all my 1.4 prime lenses and 2.8 zooms at home.
I always bring my wonderful Fuji X100 with me.
Its lens is better than 99% of the lenses I see on the streets, and its sensor is at least as good as many DSLRs out there.
It's also an engineering marvel : http://www.finepix-x100.com/in/story [finepix-x100.com]
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That is why nowadays all cameras also shoot HD video. You get lens interchangeability and high resolution video with just a fraction of the price of a semi-professional video-camera. For those with artistic interests, of course. All others can pay even less for a camcorder.
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An with new optical technology thats in the works, this whole idea of a camera - a device whose sole purpose is to take still images will go the way of the buggy-whip.
Well unless they are finding a way for a phone to do optical zoom there's no way single purpose cameras are going the way of the buggy-whip.
And my guess is, if they do manage to offer optical zoom it will probably only be in the 2x to 3x range.
"Digital SLR in conventional 35mm size" (Score:3)
35 mm are not conventional in the DSLR-world. Only the high-end models feature such a large "full-frame" sensor that only the very dedicated or the professionals are willing to pay (they usually cost more that $1000). I voted "none of the above" since my Sony Alpha 57 has a 23.5 mm x15.6 mm sensor that works fine for me, which makes it my favorite.
My Favorite Camera (Score:2)
My favorite still camera is probably the ancient Vogtländer 120 camera I sometimes use when I want to shoot pictures for my amusement.
As opposed to my cellphone camera, which is my most frequently used camera since I have it with me any time the need for a photo arises.
As opposed to my fixed lens digital camera, which is my go to camera for events I'm prepared for in advance: family gatherings, vacations, something pretty in the yard . . .
I call the Vogtländer the favorite just because of the gian
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I have an old VoigtlÃnder Bessa, and the results are pretty cool. But my go-to camera above all is my Pentax 67, with either 90mm or 165mm lens. It handles great and the results are wonderful. It's not the most portable camera in existence, but that's the only drawback.
Re:My Favorite Camera (Score:4)
Which DSLR goes for the price of a car?
Depends on the car.
If I traded my car straight-up for a Canon EOS 5d Mk III, I'd be getting a pretty good deal.
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Which DSLR goes for the price of a car? Leica S2, but otherwise? The other more unusual high-end toys aren't SLR, are they?
This one. [bhphotovideo.com] It's an SLR. Free shipping!
Best quality != most useful (Score:3)
The most useful camera might be the one you always have with you, or one that can be made ready quickly, and that's probably not a DSLR.
Wrong gear sometimes mean no photo at all (Score:2)
The most useful camera might be the one you always have with you, or one that can be made ready quickly, and that's probably not a DSLR.
It might be but, then again, it might not. Sometimes, not having the right gear means that you don't have a shot. I don't mean: "the color is a little off and image is a little grainy". I mean: "what's that spec supposed to be?" or "what's that blur supposed to be". Quite often, it means "what's that blurry spec supposed to be?".
My travel hobby is wildlife photography. There is almost never enough light as I would like. The subject is hardly ever close enough. I get good stuff with my 500mm lens on m
Light field camera (Score:2, Interesting)
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/03/10/0113202
ultrazoom (Score:2)
Olympus XA for sure! (Score:2)
Favorate image, use or convenience? (Score:3)
Because all three have different answers. I enjoy using a digital SLR camera the most, I can do lots of inter sting things and get the best results from a situation. My favorite image quality still comes from large format conventional film, but cost of equipment and processing is a barrier. While of course my phone camera is the most convenient.
Broadly, my favorite camera is the one that gets me the picture I want. Sometimes that just means being "the one I have with me", but sometimes it takes good optics, pulling lots of light and having plenty of control.
35mm sensors (Score:2)
I bought a DSLR with a 35mm sensor. After a brief flirt with a digital compact when my film camera broke down, I decided on full frame as the APS-C type dimentions looked really weird compared to film, and even more so on a computer monitor.
The only problem is 35mm sensors cost many hundreds more than an APS-C sensor. but you got paid back for it with lovely images in the dark with much less noise.
One thing that the switch to digital has done, is to allow more experimentation in photography, as you are not
wiiiiiiiide format. (Score:2)
compact wide format 35mm film camera. I waited for years to buy one, and now it's almost impossible to buy film, (35mm 100ASA slide file works best)
MILC (Score:2)
Mirror-less interchagable lens camera, that's where it's at. You can get them in crop or full frame (nex VG900) AND you can mount any full frame manual lens on them. I have an nex with a fuck ton of minolta lenses. They are cheap to buy and give you very good quality for your dollar. Cutting R out of DSLRs was the best thing that happened to digital cameras,
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Agreed. Mirrorless cameras are the future. I like the Fuji x100 and looking forward to the x100s. Most of the power and flexibility of DSLR's, with sharper photos and in a smaller package.
I've got you all beat. (Score:2)
Camera obscura. [wikipedia.org] Specifically, this [wikipedia.org] camera obscura.
My eyeballs, (Score:2)
The closest in reach that matches the situation (Score:3)
Some days my 35mm Minolta x700 and digital Sony Alpha are in my bag, some days they are accompanied by the Kodak Stereo, JEM or Brownie vertical medium formats, Brownie Bullet, Holiday, or the Agfa Isolette (120 film horizontal). One day I'll finish building my large format camera. But the one that gets the picture is the one that's there when I need it. If that's the 8MP phone camera (I have interchangeable lenses on it, magnet mount rules), then that's what's there. Vignette on Android does a nice job of mimicking developing stunts like bleach-skip on slide film.
If I have time to pick a camera, it depends on the subject. The 35mm and dslr are great for macro shots of lace work because I don't have a macro set for the medium or have finished the large format camera. They can attach to bellows, be adjusted a ton, and I've gotten a large selection of lenses for them (25mm to 300mm, lots of double/tripler rings and mount adaptors make that about 1200~1500mm). The vertical rolling medium format box cameras work great for outdoor well lit portraits in black and white, and the detail that 25~100 ASA film can capture on that large of a surface is huge. The other medium formats are nice for odd shots, quircky things, and odd development processes that may or may not work. Developing in instant coffee, for example, because who cares if the DOF sucks and the focus is out a bit when the process is going to distort everything even more.
I have a 100$ Olympus "pont n shoot" Digital (Score:2)
And its a nice camera, big MP, big optical zoom, great battery, lots of features, like it a lot
I dont love it though, its one of those flat rectangle jobs, which in my big ass hands means
I feel like I am going to drop it
My finger constantly covers the flash
Its harder to get a good macro shot
its button is pretty flush with the case making it easy to not really depress
The camera I loved was a Toshiba, 2mp, 6x optical zoom, and was in the form factor of a scaled down (maybe 1/2 size 35mm) DLSR
It had a pop up f
Nikon D5100 (Score:2)
I wore out the shutter on my D40, (125,000+ photos)... so my replacement, the D5100 is pretty cool.
I use a pinhole camera (Score:2)
you insensitive clod!
Cowboy Neal- (Score:3)
We take Cowboy Neal along then later we ask him to describe whatever we saw.
Big EFFING MISSING OPTION - APS-C (Score:3)
Where is DSLR - APS-C
Much more popular than the Full frame 35mm DSLRs, and has been in existence much before the mirrorless cameras came into existence.
The poll should have had the following options on the interchangeable lens space
Full frame DSLR
Crop sensor DSLR (will cover 1.5, 1.3. and 1.6 crop factor DSLRs)
EVIL - Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens
Panasonic DMC-TZ5 (Score:2)
Panasonic is a sleeper company. Better quality & value than you would think. The Costco of camera companies.
Depends on what I am shooting. (Score:2)
I still use a 4x5" Cambo for still-life studio shots and occasional landscape. Still film because I can justify spending several years worth of mortgage payments on a digital back.
I still love my Mamiya RZ-67 for portraits or any studio stuff I don't need perspective correction or scheimpflug correction.
Pretty much everything else is my digital SLR or my phone. The latter I keep locked in my car and the former I have on me all the time so they are used the most.
My favorite would likely be the Large format j
Nikon CoolPix 2500 (Score:2)
Bought it around 10 years ago. It fits into my motorcycle suit sleeve pocket so it's always with me on trips. The picture size is just fine for viewing on the 'net which is where a majority of my pictures end up anyway.
I bought some Canon thing a few years back because it was on sale at one of the computer stores but it crapped out halfway through my motorcycle trip and I had to buy a cheap HP camera at OfficeDepot. Turns out if you increased the resolution to the max, you had to have it on a stand or it'd
Rolleiflex (Score:2)
Fixed lens: Fuji X100 (Score:2)
It isn't the arrow, it's the indian. (Score:2)
Put another way, a good photographer can get a Pulitzer-winner with an Instamatic.
Personally, I have a romantic attachment to b/w medium and large format.. haven't indulged in over 12 years.
That said, the best camera's the one you have with you.. so yeah.. whatever's on my phone.
A real camera (Score:2)
chdk (Score:2)
The best camera... (Score:2)
Technological Bias! (Score:3)
Re:"35mm DSLR" (Score:4, Informative)
You're right about that, buuuuuuuut ... I meant body size. (As opposed to the generally smaller-bodied interchangeable lens cameras with 4/3 and Micro 4/3, etc.) Polls, dangit, need to have more of an explanation box for parsing options ;)
As you say, the sensors are mostly smaller than 35mm film, but it's the body/system I'm getting at. There are more and more full-frame DSLRs, too.
(On my mind, after getting intrigued by a lot of cameras I can't currrently afford / justify / rationalize, including cinema cameras, like the very intriguing Blackmagic Cinema Camera, which one-day-eventually may come in an active MFT mount, in addition to the promised but not yet delivered MFT passive version. Until a month or two ago, I had no idea how many options there are now in MFT, and I've ordered a refurbed Panasonic.) Like computers, seems there's never a good time to buy -- my order caused the universe, or at least Amazon, to now offer the better-for-video Lumix GH1 for only slightly more than I paid for a G2. Ah, well ;)
Re:"35mm DSLR" (Score:5, Informative)
1. Small format film camera
2. Medium or large format film camera
3. Permanent lens digital camera.
4. DSLR
5. Compact System Camera (or SLD, Single Lens Direct-view. The name for this category is still solidifying.)
6. Cell phone camera
7. Cowboy Neal
8. I'm going to complain about lack of options
What's wrong with what he said, for the nitpicky:
1. "Film camera (35mm or smaller film)" Nothing wrong. Covers the majority of film cameras, 35mm, APS, 110 roll film, Kodak Disc, etc.
2. "Film camera (film > 35mm)" Again, nothing wrong. Covers all the common aspect ratios of 120 roll film, including all those popular medium formats like Hasselblad, Mamiya, Yashica, Rolliflex, etc. (or many of these can take medium format sheet film). It also covers on up to viewcameras - press cameras (Graflex) and studio cameras, 4 x 5, 8 x10, etc. Or George Lawrence's 8' x 4.5' camera.
3. "Fixed-lens digicam of some kind" The nitpick here is with the use of the term "Fixed-lens," which in photography, "fixed" usually refers to a lens of "fixed focal length," meaning a prime lens, not a zoom lens. It doesn't usually mean a lens that's permanently attached to the camera. Most digital point-and-shoot cameras have permanently attached zoom lenses.
4. "Digital SLR in conventional 35mm size." 35mm is actually an unconventional size for a digital camera sensor. There are certainly several full frame DSLR's out there, but they're the high-end exception. Most are APS-C sized, and then there are the Olympus and Panasonics with 4/3, and probably some other sizes out there. While this list divided film cameras by film size into a comprehensive dichotomy, this classification of digital cameras leaves a lot of cameras homeless, that probably should have fit into this category - aside from APS-C and 4/3, there are a few digital rangefinders, there are Medium Format digitals. 5. "Micro 4/3,Q, or other newfangled mount." The problem here is the attempt to use new mounts to cover a new body type that's become popular. The name for this is still up in the air, but Compact System Camera may be winning. It's the Olympus PEN's and OM-D's, Sony NEX, Panasonic Lumix G series, Nikon 1, Pentax K-01.
6. "Whatever came with the phone." Or came in a phone. Whatever.
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Missing from the list is medium format. I shoot Leaf and Phase backs, sensors are not quite full 6×4.5 (56mm × 41.5mm) of 120 film, P40+ is 43.9mm × 32.9mm and Leaf Aptus II 5 is 48mm × 36mm. The sensor sizes change between manufactures and models, just to add even more confusion.
You have to hope your focussing screen shows the correct crop lines, the Leaf screen does not. We're tethered to a computer at all times so isn't really an issue.
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Re:DSLR (Score:5, Informative)
So, let me see, the first two options are strictly based on the media and its size (film, millimeters), the third option has to do with the overall size of the camera, the media and the interchangeability of the lens, the fourth option differentiates itself by referring again to the media and its size (digital, 35 mm) while it blurs the waters by throwing a confusing "conventional" in there just for the fun of it, while the fifth option refers to the size of the media (that is implied to be digital) and the type of the mount (which has no relevancy whatsoever to all previous options). At least with a Cowboy Neal option we would have a constant point of reference...
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The Pentax 6x7 looks "virtually identical" to a 35mm SLR in the same way that Fast Bastard looks "virtually identical" to Mini Me.
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On the other hand, my Pentax 645Nii is about the same size as one of my friend's Olympus DSLR (with a sensor smaller than 35mm equiv.). On the third hand (what, you don't have three?) it is considerably bigger than my favourite 35mm: the light, cheap and small Pentax MV.
B.
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By a person looking through reversed binoculars, surely :). Which 6x7? The Pentax 67, Mamiya 67, or Mamiya RB67 (not that one, unless the observer was blind)?
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I went to an airshow last weekend with my Canon 5D mkII and 400mm lens. I got some great shots.
I'm not sure how the woman holding her iPad up to the sky went.
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Nah, View camera for the win! (Score:2)
I have a 4 by 5 Calumet stashed in my collection - been a long time since it has been used. It might be fun getting a digital back for the beast.
A long time friend had a C220 for a while along with a collection of lenses. My only experience with a TLR was my parents Argus.
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Instead of messing around trying to get a higher resolution out of 35mm, I found it much easier to simply shoot medium format film. Much more resolution to be got there!
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11" Schmidt-Cassegrain with various CCD cameras.
How do you get the subjects to stay still? You know, as in the still-image pictures of TFQ?
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a clock drive, perhaps? If the stars won't stand still, you need to follow them.
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yep. it's just as big, but without the large sensor.
(I use a powershot 120, with the firmware hack. 10x zoom, but 1/2.3 inch sensor. Not well suited to low light conditions.)