... and old Citroens [gjcp.ath.cx] - that's a GSA with an aircooled 1300cc flat four, which takes it to around 115mph (will cruise all day at just under the ton). Going from 0-60 in about 11 seconds is helped by the upper rev limit of around 8,500rpm...
The 2CVs and Dyanes had an aircooled 600cc twin (with fairly manky exhaust emissions if not properly looked after). The 2CV Sahara was four wheel drive - it had a second engine mounted at the back!
And of course, if you want to really enjoy the aircooled fun, get a Tatr
Ok, I know you are joking about radiators here, but there are other forms of water cooling modifications that people really do on cars.
Air-to-Water intercooler:
Cools the intake air after it has been compressed and heated by a turbocharger. As opposed to Air-to-Air, which is much more common. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Water or CO2 IC Sprayer:
Cools the outside of an air to air intercooler by spraying it with water. I believe the STI's come with wter ic sprayers stock. CO2 spr
Do I need to install a really big fan on my car to mod it?
Um, yes actually. If you're tuning a turbo car with an intercooler, you need a large fan to provide airflow while getting the boost and fuel map right.
My car is turbocharged. I only have one fan in it, and it's disconnected most of the time (it runs cool). The airflow required by the engine is supplied by the suction of the engine itself, and the suction of the turbo itself. Boost doesn't have a map, it has a level.
Also, nothing is supplied by "suction of the engine". Atmospheric pressure PUSHES air into the turbo intake, and the turbo further compresses that and feeds it to the engine. The engine doesn't "suck it in".
You don't need a fan all the time on an intercooler or otherwise because the car is already moving, and the intercooler is exposed at the front of the vehicle. The fan is for when you aren't moving.
Boost may well have a map. Depending on whether the ecu is told what gear you're in, you have 1 or 2 variables that determine max boost - rpm and gear. You may want to restrict the boost in low gears to avoid wheelspin, and you also want to taper boost at high rpms to avoid overloading the injectors.
I think the original post was tounge in cheek but man I can't figure out if your reply is.
I have a intercooler for my turbocharger, but it takes adavantage of a hood scoop to ram air over it. I know a lot of guys move their intercooler in front of the car to get even more air flow, but I've yet to hear of a fan in front of an intercooler. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would imagine fan blades are just going to cause more obstructions when you are going 60mph anyway.
Nope, just a HUGE wing, tons of stickers (they add about 5hp a piece) and the biggest, most obnoxious sounding coffee-can exhaust pipe you can find. Extra points for "cutting" your own springs for a lower ride. To increase handling, make sure to get the oversized 18" rims with 1" low-pro tires, make sure you get a few spares, and keep that jack handy! Oh.. and don't forget to get the carbon fiber hood. Before you know it.. your Chevy Cav will be blowing the doors off of Z's, RX8's, Vette's, Vipers... you wi
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I'm going to go all-out l337 and install a water-cooling kit!
Ha! Mine CAME with liquid cooling!
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Crap. Mine doesn't have water cooling, and I was told it was a sports car. I want a refund.
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The 2CVs and Dyanes had an aircooled 600cc twin (with fairly manky exhaust emissions if not properly looked after). The 2CV Sahara was four wheel drive - it had a second engine mounted at the back!
And of course, if you want to really enjoy the aircooled fun, get a Tatr
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Do I need to install a really big fan on my car to mod it?
Um, yes actually. If you're tuning a turbo car with an intercooler, you need a large fan to provide airflow while getting the boost and fuel map right.
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My car is turbocharged. I only have one fan in it, and it's disconnected most of the time (it runs cool). The airflow required by the engine is supplied by the suction of the engine itself, and the suction of the turbo itself. Boost doesn't have a map, it has a level.
-Jesse
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Also, nothing is supplied by "suction of the engine". Atmospheric pressure PUSHES air into the turbo intake, and the turbo further compresses that and feeds it to the engine. The engine doesn't "suck it in".
You don't need a fan all the time on an intercooler or otherwise because the car is already moving, and the intercooler is exposed at the front of the vehicle. The fan is for when you aren't moving.
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Boost doesn't have a map, it has a level.
Boost may well have a map. Depending on whether the ecu is told what gear you're in, you have 1 or 2 variables that determine max boost - rpm and gear. You may want to restrict the boost in low gears to avoid wheelspin, and you also want to taper boost at high rpms to avoid overloading the injectors.
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I would imagine fan blades are just going to cause more obstructions when you are going 60mph anyway.
The point is that you're not going 60 on a dyno. You're stationary, doing 4krpm in 3rd gear. Fans are necessary.
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