The PC users that constantly come on here with dell quotes talking about how you can get a "Better" machine for cheaper should be forced to read this book. Maybe then they will understand that price is not the end all be all factor in why someone would want a Mac. I know that the culture is probably the number one reason I own a Mac. I pay the extra price because I am proud of this high quality product. Furthermore by paying "more" i find I'm supporting a company and a group of people that are doing an
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Friday October 29, 2004 @05:30PM (#10667719)
Maybe then they will understand that price is not the end all be all factor in why someone would want a Mac
Offer me a loaded Mac G5 or a loaded PC desktop from Dell, Alienware or Falcon NW - I'll take the PC thanks. Because I can actually use it for high-end graphical apps, playing games - and have a chance in hell of being able to reuse some of the components in 5 years when the machine is nearing the end of it's useful life.
I pay the extra price because I am proud of this high quality product.
Absolute bullshit. You pay extra because they are a tiny fraction of the market and have "exclusive" small market prices.
My Powerbook, running Mac OS X - locks up more frequently than my bolted-together-from-spare-parts Windows machine does (I use Windows for games, I use my Mac for email). And when the Mac goes down - as it invariably does - I have to TAKE THE BATTERY OUT to get the fucking thing to shut off.
Then there were the numerous Powerbook / iPod battery problems, failing Powerbook screens, failing mainboards that needed to be replaced. Apple spells "Quality" with a "K", I tell ya. Too much emphassis on flash and shiny cases - not enough substance (performance, value, industry standards and upgradability).
This is where the culture comes in bringing in a sense of loyalty to the product you use. I don't feel like PC users have that same phenomenon and maybe if they understood it they wouldn't rant and piss and flame
"Understood it"? Excuse me? Apple machines have faults - just as Windows machines do. But the difference is that Windows users complain when something doesn't go right. Apple users seem to go "oh well, it must have fucked up because I'm retarded and don't know anything about computers" and ignore it. Guess what - they are retarded - not for the reasons they think, but for repeatedly putting up with it.
single mouse buttons
ARE FUCKING STUPID. Half the Mac OS X apps require you to hold down the control key, then click in order to emulate a 2nd mouse button (or you can hold the 1st button down for 5 seconds and go make a sandwich and take a nap before the system realises what you're trying to do and pretends to click the 2nd mouse button for you). What should be simple mousing ends up being retarded keyboard chording. Which wouldn't annoy me too much as I can use an external mouse - except when I'm using my Powerbook on the road and don't want the bulk with me.
My kingdom for a hard power switch and a 2nd mouse button on my Powerbook. Don't get me wrong, I do actually like my Powerbook. But Apple computers are't the Silver Bricks From God that some Apple fanatics would have everyone think. They're not superior - they're just different. All products have flaws (Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, whatever).
> There are not enough mod points in the world for you.
Agreed. Poster deserves "+X Insightful" where X is some absurdley large integer. In lieu of being able to award said large integer, I'll just reply here echoing your comments.
I refuse to believe that you, as a serious PC user, shelled out the cash for a Powerbook and:
1) Didn't think to hold down the power button for five seconds instead of removing the battery. You'll be very disappointed if you try to buy a new laptop without ACPI these days, because I don't believe anyone makes them. No hard power switches on any platform.
I use a piece of software on my powerbook called SideTrack [ragingmenace.com]. I've got touchpad-tap as my left mouse button, and the physical button as the right mouse button. Takes an hour or two to get used to it, but makes the touchpad a lot more tollerable to us multi-mouse-button fans!
Insightful? Either grossly ill informed or a troll.
a) If it's crashing regularly, something's wrong. It's not supposed to do that. Get it fixed. That's what everyone else does instead of whining about it.
b) Hold down the power button for hard reset. Taking the battery out is not necessary.
c) If you want second button click for your trackpad, get Sidetrack.
I've basically just repeated someone else's reply word for word, but I don't have mod points and these things need to be ground in to you anyway. Your
You wrote: "Absolute bullshit. You pay extra because they are a tiny fraction of the market and have "exclusive" small market prices. "
Where'd you learn economics, bullshit-boy? What is " "exclusive" small market prices."? So BMWs are more expensive BECAUSE they're 'exclusive'? Perhaps there are fewer of them (less supply), thus higher prices.
PC users should read this... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:2, Insightful)
Offer me a loaded Mac G5 or a loaded PC desktop from Dell, Alienware or Falcon NW - I'll take the PC thanks. Because I can actually use it for high-end graphical apps, playing games - and have a chance in hell of being able to reuse some of the components in 5 years when the machine is nearing the end of it's useful life.
I pay the extra price because I am proud of this high quality product.
Absolute bullshit. You pay extra because they are a tiny fraction of the market and have "exclusive" small market prices.
My Powerbook, running Mac OS X - locks up more frequently than my bolted-together-from-spare-parts Windows machine does (I use Windows for games, I use my Mac for email). And when the Mac goes down - as it invariably does - I have to TAKE THE BATTERY OUT to get the fucking thing to shut off.
Then there were the numerous Powerbook / iPod battery problems, failing Powerbook screens, failing mainboards that needed to be replaced. Apple spells "Quality" with a "K", I tell ya. Too much emphassis on flash and shiny cases - not enough substance (performance, value, industry standards and upgradability).
This is where the culture comes in bringing in a sense of loyalty to the product you use. I don't feel like PC users have that same phenomenon and maybe if they understood it they wouldn't rant and piss and flame
"Understood it"? Excuse me? Apple machines have faults - just as Windows machines do. But the difference is that Windows users complain when something doesn't go right. Apple users seem to go "oh well, it must have fucked up because I'm retarded and don't know anything about computers" and ignore it. Guess what - they are retarded - not for the reasons they think, but for repeatedly putting up with it.
single mouse buttons
ARE FUCKING STUPID. Half the Mac OS X apps require you to hold down the control key, then click in order to emulate a 2nd mouse button (or you can hold the 1st button down for 5 seconds and go make a sandwich and take a nap before the system realises what you're trying to do and pretends to click the 2nd mouse button for you). What should be simple mousing ends up being retarded keyboard chording. Which wouldn't annoy me too much as I can use an external mouse - except when I'm using my Powerbook on the road and don't want the bulk with me.
My kingdom for a hard power switch and a 2nd mouse button on my Powerbook. Don't get me wrong, I do actually like my Powerbook. But Apple computers are't the Silver Bricks From God that some Apple fanatics would have everyone think. They're not superior - they're just different. All products have flaws (Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, whatever).
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:1)
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:1)
Agreed. Poster deserves "+X Insightful" where X is some absurdley large integer. In lieu of being able to award said large integer, I'll just reply here echoing your comments.
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:2)
1) Didn't think to hold down the power button for five seconds instead of removing the battery. You'll be very disappointed if you try to buy a new laptop without ACPI these days, because I don't believe anyone makes them. No hard power switches on any platform.
2) Haven't heard of Sidetrack. [ragingmenace.com]
3) Aren't aware that the resale value of your Powerbook is still going to be very high compared to its PC competitors whe
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:2)
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:2)
a) If it's crashing regularly, something's wrong. It's not supposed to do that. Get it fixed. That's what everyone else does instead of whining about it.
b) Hold down the power button for hard reset. Taking the battery out is not necessary.
c) If you want second button click for your trackpad, get Sidetrack.
I've basically just repeated someone else's reply word for word, but I don't have mod points and these things need to be ground in to you anyway. Your
Re:PC users should read this... (Score:1)
Where'd you learn economics, bullshit-boy? What is " "exclusive" small market prices."? So BMWs are more expensive BECAUSE they're 'exclusive'? Perhaps there are fewer of them (less supply), thus higher prices.
Sheesh.
You are either a liar or an idiot. (Score:2)
And when the Mac goes down - as it invariably does - I have to TAKE THE BATTERY OUT to get the fucking thing to shut off.
Take the battery out? Command-Ctrl Power will power the machine down no matter what. It's equivalent to the RESET button.