What ethical problems? Decompiling is perfectly moral and ethical. Whether it is illegal is a seperate and, for me, almost irelevant issue. If I legally own a copyrighted work I am allowed to read it, period and end of story. Corporate licences excepted, software is SOLD, not licensed despite the scary words on the box and the dread click through EULA.
Hell, I learned assembly by writing a disassembler (in BASIC) and reading the Microsoft BASIC roms, then l
What ethical problems? Decompiling is perfectly moral and ethical.... If I legally own a copyrighted work I am allowed to read it, period and end of story. Corporate licences excepted, software is SOLD, not licensed despite the scary words on the box and the dread click through EULA.
I disagree here. I am a strong believer that people should be able to trade goods/services for prices/conditions they mutually agree upon. If I write software and say I will sell it to you for $x on condition that you do Y
> I think it is morally repugnant of you to break our agreement and decompile.
While you are welcome to your delusions, but out here in the real world we have some things called laws. Specifically the Uniform Commercial Code and the Copyright laws.
You will note that I excepted commercial licenses, since those are actual signed contracts and are legally binding.
According to the Uniform Commercial Code if goods are exchanged in regular trade there can't be strings attached; i.e. if it looks like a sale
But think about it, what you are saying is that you can sell me a copyrighted work that I am forbidden to read myself
Sure. I was thinking of this as an example when I wrote my last post. I could write a book, and say to you, "Here's my book, it's $5, but if you buy it you can't read chapters 3, 7, or 9." And I'd have no problem with that. If you don't want to pay money for a book whose full contents I say you can't read, then fine - don't buy it. But don't buy it, knowing what terms I've laid out, and
So as a manufacturer, I should just attach an EULA to whatever I sell.
This baby garment may not be worn by an actual baby, it is for display only.
Now when it turns out to be flammable, I'm covered, right? You violated the EULA by putting it on your kid. What's special about software that makes you think you can attach conditions like "not responsible for bugs"? Or: "you can't decompile"?
If the EULA is clearly presented and the consumer can understand it, then why not. I just know that I wouldn't buy clothes packaged in a label that said: "NOT TO BE WORN BY ACTUAL PEOPLE. HIGHLY FLAMABLE. IF YOU BURN AND DIE, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE."
Why do you think I am for hiding or "tricking" people? I said in my original post, in very clear terms, that conditions are only valid if the buyer understands and agrees to them.
What ethical problems? (Score:5, Insightful)
What ethical problems? Decompiling is perfectly moral and ethical. Whether it is illegal is a seperate and, for me, almost irelevant issue. If I legally own a copyrighted work I am allowed to read it, period and end of story. Corporate licences excepted, software is SOLD, not licensed despite the scary words on the box and the dread click through EULA.
Hell, I learned assembly by writing a disassembler (in BASIC) and reading the Microsoft BASIC roms, then l
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:3, Insightful)
I disagree here. I am a strong believer that people should be able to trade goods/services for prices/conditions they mutually agree upon. If I write software and say I will sell it to you for $x on condition that you do Y
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:5, Interesting)
While you are welcome to your delusions, but out here in the real world we have some things called laws. Specifically the Uniform Commercial Code and the Copyright laws.
You will note that I excepted commercial licenses, since those are actual signed contracts and are legally binding.
According to the Uniform Commercial Code if goods are exchanged in regular trade there can't be strings attached; i.e. if it looks like a sale
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:2, Interesting)
Sure. I was thinking of this as an example when I wrote my last post. I could write a book, and say to you, "Here's my book, it's $5, but if you buy it you can't read chapters 3, 7, or 9." And I'd have no problem with that. If you don't want to pay money for a book whose full contents I say you can't read, then fine - don't buy it. But don't buy it, knowing what terms I've laid out, and
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:0)
This baby garment may not be worn by an actual baby, it is for display only.
Now when it turns out to be flammable, I'm covered, right? You violated the EULA by putting it on your kid. What's special about software that makes you think you can attach conditions like "not responsible for bugs"? Or: "you can't decompile"?
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:2)
Why do you think I am for hiding or "tricking" people? I said in my original post, in very clear terms, that conditions are only valid if the buyer understands and agrees to them.
Re:What ethical problems? (Score:2)
this is a disclaimer, not a licence agreeement
it is very much different from
"NOT TO BE WORN BY ACTUAL PEOPLE. YOU WILL GO TO JAIL IF YOU WEAR THIS GARMENT. NO EXCUSES."