We regularly demonize many classes of people and demote to non-human. Pedophiles. terrorists, monsters-du-jour, you name it. Before those is was gays, blacks, various ethnicities, you name it. Fashions come, fashions go.
I'm pretty sure that people who demonized gays, blacks, Jews, etc also demonized pedophiles and people who fit the functional definition of terrorist ("kills innocent civilians to pursue political agenda") in whatever time period they lived in.
The implication of your post indicates that as we progress we will advance our thinking such that we no longer demonize grown men who cornhole little boys or people that blow up things in public in order to scare people.
The implication of your post indicates that as we progress we will advance our thinking such that we no longer demonize grown men who cornhole little boys or people that blow up things in public in order to scare people. I'm fairly certain that this is not an advancement of humanity but instead a sure sign of its decline.
Right. Because there's no way that either of those things could ever be treated as mental illnesses that need to be treated rather than evils that need to be punished.
I don't have a problem with them being treated as mental illness, but then I think the cure for such illnesses should be high speed injection of lead to the head, it also comes with the added bonus of no relapse by the subject.
I don't have a problem with them being treated as mental illness, but then I think the cure for such illnesses should be high speed injection of lead to the head
Oddly enough that was pushed as a 'cure' for blacks and Jews as well. Violence seems to be some people's Final Solution to everything.
I just don't understand how someone can have that much blind hatred - at least without being a victim or fighting against similar urges themselves.
I'm not Jake Dodgie, so I cannot speak for him, but applying the death penalty need not be done out of blind hatred. One might dispassionately apply it as an absolute means of eliminating the threat represented by particularly dangerous individuals.
Personally, I cannot support applying the death penalty to pedophiles. However, we shouldn't assume that someone who does must necessarily be advocating it out of hate. Lots of people truly do hate pedophiles, and Dodgie worded his post in a way that is easily
Lots of people truly do hate pedophiles, and Dodgie worded his post in a way that is easily interpreted as hateful, but it could just as well have been colorful phrasing.
It could be, it could also be sarcasm or trolling, but I just addressed the most straightforward interpretation. If he wants to, he can clarify.
Acting on being a Jew (attending Synagogue, observing Chanukah, and so on) harms nobody else...
Are you sure about that? "Acting on being a Jew" (for many) implies support for Israeli policies that many believe prevents peace in the region, sexism and sectarianism that have led to assaults, complete isolation of children from other cultures, and of course circumcision.
Sorry to jump you like this, but it irritates me when people treat religion as above reproach simply because it's religion. (You're throwing a kid in a volcano?... Oh, it's for a religious ceremony! My bad, carry on.)
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We regularly demonize many classes of people and demote to non-human. Pedophiles. terrorists, monsters-du-jour, you name it. Before those is was gays, blacks, various ethnicities, you name it. Fashions come, fashions go.
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I'm pretty sure that people who demonized gays, blacks, Jews, etc also demonized pedophiles and people who fit the functional definition of terrorist ("kills innocent civilians to pursue political agenda") in whatever time period they lived in.
The implication of your post indicates that as we progress we will advance our thinking such that we no longer demonize grown men who cornhole little boys or people that blow up things in public in order to scare people.
I'm fairly certain that this is not an advanceme
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Right. Because there's no way that either of those things could ever be treated as mental illnesses that need to be treated rather than evils that need to be punished.
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I don't have a problem with them being treated as mental illness, but then I think the cure for such illnesses should be high speed injection of lead to the head, it also comes with the added bonus of no relapse by the subject.
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Oddly enough that was pushed as a 'cure' for blacks and Jews as well. Violence seems to be some people's Final Solution to everything.
I just don't understand how someone can have that much blind hatred - at least without being a victim or fighting against similar urges themselves.
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I'm not Jake Dodgie, so I cannot speak for him, but applying the death penalty need not be done out of blind hatred. One might dispassionately apply it as an absolute means of eliminating the threat represented by particularly dangerous individuals.
Personally, I cannot support applying the death penalty to pedophiles. However, we shouldn't assume that someone who does must necessarily be advocating it out of hate. Lots of people truly do hate pedophiles, and Dodgie worded his post in a way that is easily
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It could be, it could also be sarcasm or trolling, but I just addressed the most straightforward interpretation. If he wants to, he can clarify.
Are you sure about that? "Acting on being a Jew" (for many) implies support for Israeli policies that many believe prevents peace in the region, sexism and sectarianism that have led to assaults, complete isolation of children from other cultures, and of course circumcision.
Sorry to jump you like this, but it irritates me when people treat religion as above reproach simply because it's religion. (You're throwing a kid in a volcano? ... Oh, it's for a religious ceremony! My bad, carry on.)