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24h clock (Score:5, Funny)
my productivity peaks when i use 24 hour clock
Re:24h clock (Score:5, Insightful)
Again, Americans are the ones lagging behind the rest of the world in this regard. Not as bad as the metric system but close.
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I can imagine you can argue that common clocks showing time of the day go along your view of reality and if time passes by noon the switching from am to pm takes place. Similarly at midnight thus making 1200 sort of no men's land in terms of AM/PM. Yet if you take any human being that has no autistic traits and understand some
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I agree it's nonsensical if you only look at the minute of 12:00 in both cases. If you look at the hour as a whole, it's clear that after noon from 12:01-12:59 are PM times, so for consistency's sake the whole hour is considered to be PM. The converse is true for the hour of 12 AM (midnight to 1 AM). It would be even more confusing if it went 12:00 AM -> 12:01 PM in my opinion.
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It's either use the 24-hour system or at least use expressions "12 noon" and "12 midnight".
Re:24h clock (Score:4, Interesting)
The problem is that "12PM" refers to both the moment that is mid-day, and the hour long period between 12:00:00 and 12:59:59. If you think of it as a period then "12PM" makes more sense, since it takes place entire in the afternoon. 24 hour time is obviously much clearer and easier.
I have seen some places in Japan that advertise being open until 27:00, meaning 3:00 the next day.
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I'm an american and all my clocks are 24 hr.
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I usually write dates as, e.g. 19 OCT 2013
I realize it's English-centric, but it's pretty unambiguous and understandable. I try to use 24-hour time, UTC where appropriate, but that isn't available sometimes.
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Wait a sec. You want to gig us on using time based on either one 24 hour cycle, or two 12 hour cycles? Really?
And your backup gun is to gig us on not using metric that is based on that same 60 * 60 * 24 system? Because it's decimal?
Your whole post is a failure of the highest caliber.
What do you do for an encore, argue whether zebra stripes are black or white?
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It's well known that zebras are black with white stripes!
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I measure my gas mileage in rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I like it!
Re:24h clock (Score:4, Funny)
Shouldn't that be gas roddage then?
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Speaking of that, what is it called in the metric speaking world?
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Fuel consumption, or sometimes colloquially "burn", and it's measured in l/100km.
fuel consumption (Score:2)
They tend to use the inverse measurement: litres per 100 kilometres (l/100 km). I think it's just called "fuel consumption", with the "over a standard distance of 100 km" part implied in the name.
Re:24h clock (Score:5, Funny)
At least in England I can still weigh myself in stones. They haven't been fully metrified.
So . . . they're not fully metrified because they're still partly petrified?
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They're not fully metrified because their not fully Euroitzed. Otherwise, they'd be soaked in Greece.
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Totally agree with this, for two reasons.
First, the English system is better than metric because a lot of it is based on fractions. Half a pint, a quarter of an inch. It is much easier for the human eye to split something into halves than tenths. Which makes it much easier to figure out what 1/16 of an inch is compared to 0.1 cm. Now, instead of converting to metric, what we should have done is convert to base 16 numbering system.
Second, the English system is more future proof then the metric every was. You
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Who estimates?
This is Slashdot. Use a screen ruler app.
Real world? Physical objects? Yeah, heard of them. Interesting theoretical possibility.
Re:24h clock (Score:5, Insightful)
First, the English system is better than metric because a lot of it is based on fractions. Half a pint, a quarter of an inch. It is much easier for the human eye to split something into halves than tenths. Which makes it much easier to figure out what 1/16 of an inch is compared to 0.1 cm. Now, instead of converting to metric, what we should have done is convert to base 16 numbering system.
Fractions may be easier to estimate by eye, but they're more difficult to do calculations with, requiring you to first convert all the fractions to the same denominator.
The metric system also scales better. No weird conversions between 'orders of magnitude'. Compare mile, yard, inch to km, m, mm.
There's also an element of being used to measurement units. I have no problem estimating measurements in cm or mm, I'd have a much harder time having to repeatedly divide by 2 to get at 1/16".
Second, the English system is more future proof then the metric every was. You can't convert 1 mm to cm exactly in floating point, so there are all these rounding errors with the base-10 that the metric system is inseparably linked to. In hexadecimal, it would be .166666 (repeating) cm! What a horrible system in the age of computers!
That's a very computer-centric way to look at things. We invented computers so they could make things easy for us, not the other way round. There are ways to have the computer do calculations without rounding errors, so use them.
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That's a very computer-centric way to look at things. We invented computers so they could make things easy for us, not the other way round. There are ways to have the computer do calculations without rounding errors, so use them.
I don't want to get involved in some inane metric vs. imperial shouting contest, but it should be pointed out that computers' use of base-2 isn't exactly something we can just change at our convenience. Computers will always be better and faster at computing in base-2 than in base-10.
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I'm not suggesting to give up on binary, but e.g. BCD can be used (and is used) to do calculations where rounding errors are intolerable. I'm suggesting that modern computers are fast enough to absorb the overhead introduced by BCD without the user noticing in many cases. If there's ever a case where you need to optimize for something other than processing speed, this is it.
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No, but I do heckle Americans for telling themselves that they speak English :P
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Re:24h clock (Score:4, Informative)
Well, no, not usually. Most computer floating point is in binary, including the exponent. It displays as #.###E##, but internally it's 1.nnnnnnn x 2^e. Things that can be exactly represented as a decimal floating point can often not be exact in a binary floating point representation.
If you need to have accurate base-10 exponents, you can certainly store it that way. Similarly, if you need highly accurate conversions of mm to cm, you could store everything with the base unit of mm. You can also store values as rational numbers (i.e. fractions). So, 1/3 would be equal to ... 1/3.
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Wow, never thought I'd see the day when Slashdot, of all places, fails to understand how floating point numbers work. I thought you guys were supposed to be computer geeks?
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Half a pint, a quarter of an inch. It is much easier for the human eye to split something into halves than tenths.
Um... You know you can have half a metre, half a centimetre etc, right? Or 1/4 of a metre etc.
Which makes it much easier to figure out what 1/16 of an inch is compared to 0.1 cm.
1/16th isn't a standard fraction of an inch. The only thing below inches is mils, or thousandths of an inch which is metric. You could just as easily have 1/16th of a centimetre if you wanted to.
You can't convert 1 mm to cm exactly in floating point
I tried dividing 1 by 10 in the Windows calculator and it got the right answer without any rounding errors. Apparently computers are capable of performing this calculation. In any case, Imperial measures have exactly the sa
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I dont understand why people write this nonsense, and after reading it again, still believe it.
So it is hard for the eye to judge a 1/10 because it is not the "half" of something? But it is easy to measure for the eye a 1/16 of an inch, how retarded is this argument?
You can't convert 1 mm to cm exactly in floating point, so there are all these rounding errors with the base-10 that the metric system is inseparably linked to. In hexadecimal, it would be .166666 (repeating) cm! What a horrible system in the ag
Re:24h clock (Score:5, Insightful)
Totally agree with this, for two reasons.
First, the English system is better than metric because a lot of it is based on fractions. Half a pint, a quarter of an inch. It is much easier for the human eye to split something into halves than tenths. Which makes it much easier to figure out what 1/16 of an inch is compared to 0.1 cm.
So much wrong.
That is precisely why the Imperial systems were wrong and replaced.
Multiply and deviding using fraction across multiple incongruent measurements is harder for both humans and computers. I can break a metric distance measurement into smaller units without any effort, I.E. 2.040345 Kilometres, I know how many metres, centimetres and millimetres I need to deal with at a glance. However 1.267811 Miles, how many feet, inches and fractions of inches do you need? Try to figure it out in your head without a calculator or even a sheet of paper.
Beyond this, different types of measurements are compatible, 1 Litre of is 10 centimetres cubed (a "CC" is a cubic centimetre), how many inches make a gallon?. In the metric system, units of area, length, volume and mass are designed to fit together in a computationally convenient way.
Erm, yes you can. You can change exponents. The entire metric system was made to be scalable in a way that is beyond the capabilities of Imperial system.
You'll have a lot more trouble with floating points in an Imperial system. Instead of saying 2.040345 kilometres you'd have to specify X Miles, X yards, X feet, X Inches. Four different measurements and they have different fractions, an inch is 1/12 of a foot, a foot is 1/3 of a yard and a yard is 1/1760 of a mile (yards are clearly an easy to compute fraction).
Kilometres, Metres, Millimetres and the rest of the metric scale is interchangeable and scalable.
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Re:24h clock (Score:4, Insightful)
When I wake up in the morning I want to brew a quart of coffee, not 110.12 centi-Liters or some ridiculous shit like that.
So, a liter then. Why do you think we use more significant digits just because we use metric? Let me use the same ridiculous argument you do:
"Let me be the first to say, "Fuck the imperial system". You guys can keep it. When I wake up in the morning I want to brew a liter of coffee, not 1.05669 quarts or some ridiculous shit like that. Your system is unnecessarily complex."
(Of course, I had no idea which of the several types of quarts you were referring to, so my numbers may be incorrect - but then, so were yours).
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When I wake up in the morning I want to brew a quart of coffee, not 110.12 centi-Liters or some ridiculous shit like that.
So, a liter then. Why do you think we use more significant digits just because we use metric?
I'd also like to say that we also have friendly names for common units. A "cup" of coffee is 250 millilitres, a tablespoon 20 millilitres, is a "pint" of beer is 660 millilitres (this changes depending on your location) so on and so forth (teaspoons, wine glasses, knots). I'll order a pint of beer, but if I want to do real work with numbers like building a house where you need to be "centimetre perfect" I'll use the measurements that are scalable.
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Lastly, 232 F for a boiling point vs. 100 C? Farenheit's chosen reference is just not as well thought out.
Yes, but what temperature does paper burn at?
How often do you need to know the exact temperature water boils at?
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Lastly, 232 F for a boiling point vs. 100 C? Farenheit's chosen reference is just not as well thought out.
Yes, but what temperature does paper burn at?
How often do you need to know the exact temperature water boils at?
When determining if a thermometer is accurate.
Primary school level of science here folks.
The point is that Celsius is based on a measurement that is easy to replicate, not only that, it's scalable.
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Fahrenheit is based on that same measurement just with a different number, but also with an additional measurement for parity.
And how is celsius more scalable than fahrenheit?
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Paper burns at about 300 degrees Celsius. I have no idea what the Farenheit equivalent is. But it's one of those things that you either know or don't. Celsius is nice and convenient when doing things like cooking, because the points where water freezes (0), protein denatures (70) and water boils (100) and other things are easy-to-remember numbers. You can think of it as "percentage of boiling".
I am more productive when I work from home (Score:2)
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I like to start work at 05:30 so I can put in a few hours before the home becomes too noisy.
After the kids go to bed (Score:2)
I love them dearly, but it's impossible to focus on anything for more than 5 minutes at a time with the rug rats on the loose.
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Except raising your kids, you mean.
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All of you guys, take a chill pill, and get a life. Obviously, none of you have children.
The poll question was about productivity. I adressed the productivity side of parenting. It's not possible to concentration oriented tasks some times of the day. That's part of the life I happily chose to live. Raising & teaching kids does take work- but I wouldn't call that the kind of productivity stated in the poll.
You guys strike me as the people that walk up to me in a grovery store, listing the ways I'm paren
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When there is a deadline (Score:4, Interesting)
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Procrastination is an important part of productivity. While you're procrastinating, and apparently not working on whatever it is you're supposed to be doing, your brain is processing it in the background. You may do things faster if you don't procrastinate, but you won't do them so well.
That's my story, anyway!
Insensitive Clods.. (Score:2)
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Retired (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Retired (Score:5, Funny)
8am to 12pm (Score:2)
It is a phenomenon I call "morning brain."
slashdot down (Score:2, Funny)
Only productive when slashdot server is down.
What about random? (Score:3)
Mine seems to be random sometimes. :P
Mornings are for getting things done. (Score:4, Insightful)
Attack early the tasks which require the most thought. Once past lunch it's cruise through things which have already been figured out. I tend to get a second wind later in the day or evening. Sometimes as late as 9 PM I'll start tacking knotty problems with gusto and vigor.
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It depends on what kinds of things...
For me, mornings are better for writing essays... my brain seems to be in a better "free association" mode at that time, so ideas and sentence structures flow more freely. This is probably due to still being in a dream-like state where any part of my brain can just pipe up and be listened to. Also, it seems to be stronger right after I roll out of bed (assuming I've actually had a full night's sleep), so the best ideas and prose comes at me during the morning shower...
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I do my best problem solving in the shower - I have the clearest view of how a problem I've been working on should nut out. One of my former flatmates used to joke they were going to buy me a divers notepad as I was always drawing in the steam on the shower screen.
Caffeine Correlation (Score:5, Interesting)
My productivity peaks about 15 minutes after drinking a large cup of coffee. How large the cup has to be depends on the time of day so we're talking gallons before 10:00 am and just a shot of espresso around 10:00 pm.
Cheers,
Dave
Creativity vs. Productivity (Score:3)
My productivity peaks after noon.
I wonder if I'd achieve more if they coincided...?
My productivity peaks (Score:3)
mostly unrelated to time of day
But when
6AM - 10AM (Score:2)
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I once had a job where I had to head out to work at 3AM, and wouldn't get back home until 5PM. I'm amazed I didn't slit my own throat.
If only... (Score:2)
I am Retired. (Score:2)
Interrupt requests (Score:3)
My peak productivity is roughly from 5 PM to 8 PM. It has nothing to do with my mental state or caffeine intake. It is simplt because that is the time when I can concentrate on my work without being interrupted almost continuously by emails, telephone calls, my boss, my coworkers etc.
The sheets, you insensitive clod... (Score:2)
Or between six beers and waking up next to CowboyNeal... Sheesh. Too PG.
8PM-Midnight (Score:2)
option 7 (Score:3)
Whenever I'm not disturbed (Score:2)
As long as my OCD doesn't take over.
When everybody else goes home (Score:2)
Re:9am to 5pm work day? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:9am to 5pm work day? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:9am to 5pm work day? (Score:5, Funny)
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Accidental insight, perhaps. Can you be productive "at play" rather than "at work?" My peak productivity is usually when I'm doing something that interests me. Unstructured free time is better for that just doing whatever is assigned to you.
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This poll means nothing unless you assume that are only productive when you are at work.
I'm not quite sure what this means. This poll covers all 24 hours, so it seems to be able to mean something for people whether they are at work or not at work. For instance, when I'm working on a personal project on the weekend it holds true that my most productive time period, 8AM to 12PM, is the same as when I am at work. But let's say my most productive period was between 8PM to 12AM (which was true when I was in college) and I worked a normal 9 to 5 job. I would still put down 8PM to 12AM as my most pro
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Where I work, it's "when I get there" to "when I leave".
Re:9am to 5pm work day? (Score:5, Insightful)
Nonsense.. not only does it never mention 9 or 5, it splits the day into 6 even segments of 4 hours. If what you mean is "it *presumes everybody works consistent hours", that's not necessarily true either. Who says when you're working is when your "peak" productivity occurs? Note - it doesn't ask which time period you're most productive over, just at which point productivity peaks. If you can't work out an average for this, then just go with one of the joke options.
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most people start work at 8am
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I realize the poll just started, but I can't believe there are so few people choosing this option. For me, those are the wee hours before people start showing up and expecting things- so 'done right' becomes secondary to 'good enough,' the pressure mounts, and regardless of sleepiness, I knock it out.
Maybe I'm just saying fear is the greatest motivator of my productivity.
I'm not usually awake for most of that, and the parts I am awake involve getting myself and the kids ready for the day. I went with 8PM->12AM, because that's when I'm usually not being interrupted by anyone.
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Yea, I get up at 4 and head in to work. I have quite a bit done before the rest of the team arrives, between 8 and 9:30am. And it's nice to be able to bail at 3:30pm while the sun's out and I can take the long way home on the motorcycle.
[John]
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If there was a wayto boost people's health, you'd see a broadening of the productivity profile across the day as more people became productive for longer hours across the day... It just goes to show you that health, the immune system in particular, is tied to digestion and that is affected by what you eat; hence, the 8-12 crowd probably eats foods that are horrible for their digestion and that lowers their focus and energy enough to decrease their productivity after they eat -- the next pulls should be what people eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner...
I'll be back later to check this pull out and find out more about these voters.
Personally, I think that I would be more product in the afternoon if I had a 2:00pm nap.
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Then why don't you? Back when I worked in an office I'd always go off and take an afternoon nap in my car, and I wasn't the only one who did that.
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Personally, I think that I would be more product in the afternoon if I had a 2:00pm nap.
Well, I use Facebook, Google, and Twitter, so I'm already quite the product.
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Re:At Red Bull thirty (Score:5, Interesting)
You ever had a Red Bull? I've never had a Red Bull before, but I had a Red Bull last night — I really like Red Bull reeeeeeed buuuuuuuuullllllllah
I find stimulants only wind me up, they do nothing for improving problem solving or working though logic. Fruit sugar is the best brain fuel - eat an apple, peach, pear, raisins, etc. Of course, the phony stimulant companies don't want you to know it's that simple or inexpensive.
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Sports Candy?
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You ever had a Red Bull? I've never had a Red Bull before, but I had a Red Bull last night — I really like Red Bull reeeeeeed buuuuuuuuullllllllah
I find stimulants only wind me up, they do nothing for improving problem solving or working though logic. Fruit sugar is the best brain fuel - eat an apple, peach, pear, raisins, etc. Of course, the phony stimulant companies don't want you to know it's that simple or inexpensive.
Fruit sugar? Like fructose? Yeah I'm sure there is not much of that in energy drinks... almost certainly much less than in an apple.
(sarcasm aside, red bull appears to be one of the few energy drinks that actually doesn't have much fructose in it... the things you learn from google!)
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You ever had a Red Bull? I've never had a Red Bull before, but I had a Red Bull last night
I wish I had red bull [gstatic.com] last night too.
Above post - borderline work-safe (Score:2)
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True story... a few months ago while leaving work I found a squirrel lying in the middle of the drive, next to a can of RedBull, stone dead. The squirrel was not crushed or show any outward signs of blunt force trauma. http://www.flickr.com/photos/trmoore/10271229984/ [flickr.com]
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